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i want to move on to one other sort of

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social media splash okay that was made

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demi's saying that

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we should not use the word alien

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um and that made i don't know if you saw

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that that made a huge splash

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within the ufo community as well which

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you know we're a part of

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i think um one thing that i learned uh

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through this experience or or learned

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even more was that i think language is

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really important i mean we're kind of in

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this like

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structure i could get into a whole

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speech about institutionalized

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heteronormativity but like labels are

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very very important for people like um

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especially

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um heteronormative culture needs like a

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label for everything so they can

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understand how everything kind of fits

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in there and at the same time i do think

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the words that we use are really

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important because of

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pop culture negative connotations that

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certain things have there's reasons why

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we don't like being called certain names

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or we're offended by stuff because of

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the weight that those

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words have and i think if you saw any

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like

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interview and i did a lot of press with

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demi where that would come up

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you know saying instead of saying aliens

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saying e.t if you watch any of that

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stuff we're kind we're not like

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la we're not laughing but there's like a

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really positive kind of like cute giggly

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energy behind it where it's like you

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know maybe we shouldn't be using that

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word right now maybe we should think

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about something else like that was like

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very the energy of it and i think it's

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because and this is something i learned

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a whole lot that the term alien me is a

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skeptic um you know

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coming in

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when i think of alien i think of

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independence day of some like monsters

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they're going to come attack and kill us

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and abduct us you know i also think

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there's really negative connotations for

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illegal alien as well you know